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gangwarily
Posted: Mar 28th, 2014 at 22:02   |   Subject: Whisstocks Built One Off Boat called Gang Warily
I am the prospective owner of the above boat. It was built in 1971 for Maldwin Drummond with the yard no 447. I would like to obtain any construction details, information and or plans for her to create a file on her history, beyond that included in "After You, Mr Lear" a book by Maldwin on his adventure through the canals of France to Salerno.
debenriver
Posted: Mar 29th, 2014 at 12:54   |   Subject: Whisstocks Built One Off Boat called Gang Warily
I was working at the boatyard when we built Gang Warily and I remember her well. But unfortunately I no longer have any of her build plans or details.

She was designed by J Francis Jones but both he and Peter Brown, who worked with JFJ and later took over the practice, are dead and I don't know if there is any archive of their plans.

She was (still is I hope) a lovely and unusual little yacht. The interior was panelled out in pitchpine salvaged from the outer skin of the hull of the SS Great Britain – I don't know if it still is? The tailboards were carved with caltrops – which feature on the Drummond arms – I don't know if they are still there? She set a squaresail as well as the conventional cutter rig and she had a Tall Ships No. (TS K22).

We build several JFJ designs:

Corista 1952
Le Frais 1952
Violet Mary 1965
Sun Cloud 1969
Gang Warily 1971

Another architect who trained in his office was Kim Holman, who went on to design many beautiful yachts (many of which we also built).

I do have one photograph of her sailing, looks like it is off Cowes, or the Solent at least. I can email you a copy if you like.

Sorry not to be able to give you more information.

George
gangwarily
Posted: Mar 29th, 2014 at 19:02   |   Subject: Bonnie - Gang Warily!
Hi George,

Thanks very much for the reply.

GW is certainly still going strong and an excellent testament to you and your father. Prior to me "taking care of her", she is currently out of the water for a cleanup, anti-foul and some tastefull "lipstick and make up" prior to getting back on the water.

She is in need of some TLC; a survey by another George (Reohorn) with admirable wooden boat credentials, will no doubt tell me exactly how much. She is the first proper (wooden) boat I have owned (other than dingy's)so I am looking forward to learning some new skills and improving my carpentry.

A number of things attracted me to her when I saw her up for sale; not least the name (I am Scottish) and general "bonnie" looks. Being an engineer, when I read that her paneling was from the SS Great Britain and the connection with I K Brunell I was immediately taken with her. The first thing I did was go below and touch the wood - silly I know!!

More sensibly, she clearly was very well built with signs of poor care which seemed superficial to my eyes. The current owner has some serious health problems and was keen to pass her into the care of someone who could provide the attention she deserves; that challenge now falls to me.

I intend carrying out some internal changes to create my own "home at sea" as was the stated desire of Maldwin in his book, but before I do I want / need as much of her original layout details as I can muster so that none of her character is lost.

To that end, back to the paneling, it has some black streaking which may not be how she was when built. It would be all to easy to remove but if that was how she was when built and how it was from the SS Gt B I want to retain it - can you recall?

Regarding the photo you have, I would very much like a copy of it for my "file", and would be happy to forward some of my own to you but not sure how best to do this - first time ever on a forum!

One other request, if you are still in contact with Maldwin, it would help me if you were able to help me get in contact with him, as I am sure that he must have some good background about her and may be interested himself in how she is doing now.

Hope to hear soon and exchange photos,

Regards,

Alan






debenriver
Posted: Mar 31st, 2014 at 12:40   |   Subject: Bonnie - Gang Warily!
Hi Alan

I think that the interior paneling timber came from an external pitchpine skin – a sort of 'doubting thomas' measure in case an iron ship wouldn't float – at least that's what we were told at the time! I haven't researched how true that is.

The grey/black on the paneling are the stains from where the timber was bolted to the iron and it came that way. I do remember that we were somewhat daunted at the thought of turning it into cabinetry! And I think that we had to plug the bolt holes. And actually I don't reckon they could be removed very successfully.

To digress slightly, in our old (in American terms – 1862) sea-captain's house here in Maine, the kitchen floor is pitchpine fastened with iron cut nails. Over the years other floors had been put down on top of it and water had leaked all over it many times. Anyway – I stripped off all the other floors and sanded up the original, which has exactly the same sort of black stains in way of each nail, which, as I was working on it, reminded me of Gang Warily! It turned out to be a very attractive floor and the stains are very much part of its history.

And I don't think touching the wood is silly at all – how many of us can have a real link to such an amazing polymath as Brunel?

I will email you a copy of the only photo that I have. Unfortunately we don't allow images on the forum – it all gets too open to spam and abuse, which is a shame. I have been thinking of providing a separate area of the website where members can post images etc. – but I haven't managed to get around to coding it yet!

I would be very glad to have some photos – you can attach photo images to an email and send them to me at support@whisstock.com. Just keep them to a large size, or original size, if possible.

I hope GW passes survey Ok without too many problems and that she gives you years of enjoyment.

Looking forward to some photos and news of how it all goes.

Best regards

George
debenriver
Posted: Mar 31st, 2014 at 13:05   |   Subject: Bonnie - Gang Warily!
Oh – I forgot – I'm sorry but I haven't been in touch with Maldwin for a long time – probably nearly 20 years. But if you wrote to him care of Cadland House in Fawley, I would think that correspondence would get to him OK – I think his son runs the estate now.

George
gangwarily
Posted: Apr 9th, 2014 at 23:58   |   Subject: Photos of GW
Hi George,

I sent some photos of GW to the support@whisstock address you gave me with an email requesting a copy of the photo you have - as I hve had no reply I was wondering if you have seen them.

I am now about to relaunch her and move her to my location. You did say you were interested in watching her progress and I do have more photos of her looking much better now but want to make sure they have got to you.

One other query, was the SS GB pitch pine used in the main cabin fore and aft bulk heads only, or was it used throughout eg, chart house, galley etc.

I have penned a letter to Maldwin to request his input - fingers crossed!

Hope things are well with you and yours, and look forward to your reply,

Regards,

Alan
debenriver
Posted: Apr 12th, 2014 at 20:55   |   Subject: Gang warily
Hi Alan

Yes I did get the photos thank you very much! I am sorry I didn't reply to you earlier – I enjoyed looking at them – she does seem in pretty good shape apart from a few cosmetic items. I haven't forgotten that I am sending you one but I am away for a couple of days so I will do it as soon as we get back.

I can't remember quite which was panelled with what exactly! But mostly it was from the SS GB – but I do know that we didn't have quite enough for everywhere so we had to make some of it. Does some look very different?

Best regards

George